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Why is there no history,pottery or art to prove the dark-ages actually happened?

Even BYZANTIUM HAS NO DARK AGE ART BYZANTIUM DID NOT SUFFER ANY DARKAGE.FACT

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  1. I think you'll find that is what makes it the dark ages
  2. Except for the greeks.
  3. Huh?
  4. That's why it's called the Dark Ages. All the knowledge, skills, crafts, and arts that we've mastered disappear. Then they are rediscovered in what's called the Renaissance. EDIT--Canadian Atheist is dead on. You should listen to him. The other thing to take into account is that historians and chroniclers at the time did not have a notion that they were in the Dark Ages. In their minds, they were modern, state of the art, and cutting edge. And for the most part, they were right. You won't see anyone at that time writing about how bad it is in the Dark Ages. That's a modern reading of life in that era.
  5. ummm.... try stained glass windows, paintings and etchings, etc.
  6. theres a book of art in the dark ages if your interested :- http://www.abebooks.co.uk/servlet/BookDetailsPL?bi=284177080&isbn=0810980231 guess it proves the dark ages existed
  7. The dating of the "Dark Ages" has always been fluid, but the concept was originally intended to denote the entire period between the fall of Rome in the 5th century and the "Renaissance" or "rebirth" of classical values. The concept of a Dark Age was created by the Italian scholar Petrarch (Francesco Petrarca) in the 1330s and was originally intended as a sweeping criticism of the character of Late Latin literature. Later historians expanded the term to refer to the transitional period between Classical Roman Antiquity and the High Middle Ages, including not only the lack of Latin literature, but also a lack of contemporary written history, general demographic decline, limited building activity and material cultural achievements in general. Popular culture has further expanded on the term as a vehicle to depict the Middle Ages as a time of backwardness, extending its pejorative use and expanding its scope. These "Dark Ages" were not world-wide. Byzantium (Eastern Roman Empire) and Arab Empire (Caliphate) all experienced "Golden Ages," not a Dark Age. This does not mean that their never was a Dark Age.
  8. I think you'll find that you are talking crap. There are REAMS of artwork, weapons, armor, ships, tents, ect that all come from the so-called "dark ages". Entire museums devoted to it and they are packed to the rafters with gorgeous artifacts. One, in particular, is devoted solely to Dark age jewelry. So, please, do a bit of research before you display your ignorance like this again. K? Oh and for the record, the word Byzantine is a modern word. No one, living at the time, would have called themselves, or their world by that name. They called their nation Rome and called themselves Romans.
  9. Perhaps because the ppl who lived during that era did not know it WAS the "Dark Ages". To them, it was just the way it was. It is those of us who have come after that have judged and labeled that time to be the "Dark Ages".
  10. The dark ages were counted from when Rome fell in 400 AD (approx), there's plenty of artefacts from that time. Depending on where you were plenty of writings too.
  11. What's this then? http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.hp.uab.edu/image_archive/ulj/mosaic08.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.hp.uab.edu/image_archive/ulj/uljc.html&usg=__le8OwFWynh2BkfJNQSYRAkm9tXU=&h=449&w=303&sz=44&hl=en&start=8&um=1&tbnid=HCIfCDD8Wn1oqM:&tbnh=127&tbnw=86&prev=/images%3Fq%3Ditalian%2B7th%2Bcentury%2Bart%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG Also use google images for Frankish and Saxon art, I think you'll find there's plenty. Edit. in my opinion Byzantium did have a dark age. Its art degenerated to simplistic religious icons from the great naturalistic acheivements of Greece and Rome. It's literature and learning became merely scholastic and derivative from the past, it did not innovate, indeed it abhored innovation as barbaric. All knowledege that conflicted with the christian worldveiw was destroyed and philosophic acadamies and universities were closed. No one could ever build Hagia Sophia again
  12. Think of the difference between, say, the language recorded as runes and early Middle English, or Latin and Dante's Italian. If there were no Dark Ages, that would be a huge jump. Also, there´s a lot of literature from the Dark Ages such as the Anglo-Saxon Chronicle, Alfred´s stuff, Beowulf, Ine's Laws, the Leech Book of Bald, the list goes on and on. Then there are the churches at Bradford on Avon, Bradwell on Sea, Greesnted and so forth, the crypt in the Orkneys with runic graffiti, various bits of jewellery, vessels, friezes, the Franks Casket, the Ruthwell Cross. I don't get why you think there isn't. I only have to go ten minutes down the road to see some. Where do you live?
  13. What about the Byzantine ivories? Frankish jewelry? Anglo-Saxon funerary pots and corpuses? The early Christian churches of Rome? There are lots of examples of pottery and art from what are dubbed the "Dark Ages" - which is not a well defined term in any case, but rather an after-the-fact assignation generally given to early Medieval period historical artifacts from Europe.
  14. Byzantium was not a leading political influence on Western Europe and Central Europe during the dark ages. Constantinople became the new Rome, where Rome itself was abandoned. Edit. You are correct, Byzantium itself did not succumb to the dark ages, but then again it did not contribute many if any new thoughts to the world through philosophy or the arts. In fact it could be said that it lived on the past glories of Rome and Greece by maintaining a stasis from the past.
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